Plotting on Brewerytown; Part II
After a brief cooling off period, we just had to round things out with the second part of the whimsical musings of some of our newest 'urban pioneers'. Welcome to Philadelphia (and kids, watch out for the anthrax ;) )!
noseknows : I'm planning to commute to Center City for work and my understanding is that there are reliable bus options (that would add up to a 20-25 minute commute total). Does this sound accurate? Is this safe?
stantheman: i have lived in brewerytown square since march 2006. it is relatively safe during the day (i've never had any problems). i dont venture out for walks into the neighborhood at night.
rapscallion: Girard Avenue isn’t safe at night. Basically, Brewerytown is a small and remote enclave with a lot of poverty surrounding it.
New to phila xii : I just signed a lease to move (with my husband and dog) to Poplar between 29th & 30th. ... Should I be concerned about walking alone at night - say from parking my car after work or from the bar up the street after happy hour?
uma: I have friends that live on 29th between Poplar and Girard and they love the area. I would suggest a can of mace, or calling someone, like your husband, when you are walking late at night.
ydoidrink: ... dont go north of girard. that is unless you want to buy crack, pick up a hooker, or get your ass kicked...you will be living in a great neighborhood but you are on the edge if you know what i mean.
tenzo: ... Make friends with the police. All you have to do is wave and smile when they go by. This is common practice where I used to live. ... Now, they wave back, I know most of them by name and I chat with them every once and awhile.
keiko: ok i really disapprove of this ... i live above girard and it is people like you spreading the hate that helps keep it around. ₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪
ironmike22 xiii : My real question is, could a kid at the age of say 22 make it in a "rough" city neighborhood if he was born and raised in the suburbs?
brooklyncat: Don't fool yourself that buying cheap in a rough neighborhood is a guaranteed road to riches though. The people in your neighborhood may not appreciate your activities or presence. There are stories of rehabbers being targeted for beatings or worse...not likely but possible.
NY, like Philly, is experiencing an uptick in violent crime that may slow down or even reverse the ongoing gentrification of the city...and some neighborhoods may never appreciate for various reasons. I'm not saying I think this is likely, but it is possible. ₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪
ary xiv : I absolutely love my neighborhood (fairmount) but cannot afford to buy a home in this neighborhood on a teacher's salary.I hear that brewerytown is the next up and coming neighborhood.I have been looking over there, particularly, between Girard and Thompson (30th and 31st) and have been pretty discouraged.Can anybody out there shed some light ??? Of course, the Westrum homes are out of my range, also.
zur: It's not safe and will not be for some time. Period. Has potential but isn't safe.
cheriev: I second that, pull up the crime and security thread and you will see some recent things that have been going on there. It is still worlds apart from Fairmount. Hopefully that will change some day.
swinefeld: I guess I'll third that. B-town still has a long way to go before it become the next Northern Liberties or SWCC. If you're an urban pioneer and are willing to put up with blight and crime in the short term, you may be rewarded with a handsome return on your investment in the near future. I'm sure Wysong can shed more light on the subject.
merkin: me and my girlfriend bought 3 properties on 27th street and jefferson for 110K. we rent a floor and one studio in an adjacent warehouse to a friend (male). ... we are not as set off by the crime around us as some people and personally if you cant deal with it here then you shouldn't live here. ... there are hot spots here and there are good blocks too. ... personally i don't like certain areas. one in particular is 29th street. but there are some really nice blocks near the development. on this side of 29th, taney street before the park and after master is a good healthy street. other streets that haunt me are parts of stiles, 1300 and 1400 dover, areas of myrtlewood and hollywood. ridge and cecil b. more is where we heard shootings happen last summer. wysong: ... but would i raise kids in the heart of b'town, up merkin's way? - no. on my block? - yes. ₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪
niel xv : We take our daughter up to Smith Playground (well, now Playhouse) in the East Park off 33rd St. in Strawberry Mansion. I don't have a problem with being in the park and along 33rd. If you wandered around too much in the neighborhoods you might attract the wrong sort of attention, but let's be fair, there are plenty of law-abiding people in the run-down neighborhoods too, they're not all going to come out and jump you.
merkin: when we first moved there we where gawked at but now people are getting used to white people. people wont bother you. the problem i think arrises when you make a deal of it and act like you are scared. if you walk with confidence you can walk almost anywhere. and on a bike you have no problems. it looks much worse then it looks.
lexis518 : I'll be attending Drexel in the fall as a graduate student and I am currently searching for apartments w/in the Art Museum and Brewerytown areas. I'm wondering if these areas are safe ....
suzieq: We live near 29th in Brewerytown and we are happy there. You will find the areas around 27th and Brown quite different from Girad Ave. and 29th St - Girard is termed by many here as a border between Fairmount and N. Philly. I personally would probably not live north of Girard (although its improving and many people do live there and feel it is not unsafe) ... There is a place for rent on our street, south of Girard and Poplar at 30th - let me know if you want details. ₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪
dukeboards xvii : What's the deal with the kids at Eakins Oval in front of the Art Museum? They have handwritten signs about a basketball team or something but no adults anywhere. Any chance they're legitimate? If not, why aren't the cops chasing them away??
28thandpoplar: Are they black? They must be the same ones I saw IN THE FOUNTAIN!!
sparco: Never ever have I or will I give money to people panhandling like that! Basketball uniforms my a$$!
greenstdude: It's a scam. I can't believe the cops let them stand in the middle of the road doing this crap. Tell them to SCRAM!
thatguy: I was in my car jamming out to some tunes with windows closed. This kid, maybe 12 yrs old comes up and ... decides to start pounding on my window. I rolled down the window and yelled "GET THE **** OFF MY CAR!" and he refused to back off. I can't believe the attitude these little punks have. Take caution when near them, wouldn't be surprised if they are carrying weapons. Next time ... I'll be calling the cops.
bernie25: these kids probably wont be able to graduate junior high. so i guess they are trying to learn a trade early on.
bubbasammyiii: Hey j-offs, let's not forget that they are kids. Given your username, 28thandPoplar has a lot of nerve asking, "were they black?" They're just kids. If they are "scamming" save your useless comments for their parents. Otherwise, how about offering some evidence that they are not fundraising for their uniforms? I wonder what you (again) j-offs would write if it were a bunch of white kids asking for the same. I have a hunch this thread wouldn't exist. ₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪
fleadog xviii : I go by that corner when I drive up 29th, then hang a left onto Master to head down to B-town sq where i live. There are blighted streets of homes that look light war-torn Beirut, just a couple blocks away. I personally wouldn't feel safe at night if I had to park only farther than a short distance off of 29th, which is actually a major thoroughfare street.
₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪ zur xix : This was something I made [a map depicting where the wouldnt feel goodpeople live (the African-American neighborhoods) and the badpeople live (the white neighborhoods)] for a new resident of Fairmount who didn't understand why the random crime will never stop. There's too many impoverished neighborhoods withing walking distance of Fairmount. and the wealth gap makes Fairmount's wealthy residents easy targets. ... Two thing will stop it. Gentrification of areas north to act as a buffer..(or kinda like pushing someone in front of you to take the blow)
livrun xx : [a female jogger recounts how she nearly had her ipod stolen by a group of 6-8 african american kids between the ages of 8-14while she jogged along Kelley Drive.]
raider.adam: Carry pepper spray on you. A shot of that in their eyes will definitely make them think twice about trying it again. ... Vigilantism within legal bounds is what we seem to have to resort to.
elasticpurejoy: Keep the real ipod tucked inside your shorts. Have a decoy ipod on the outside that is very visible. The decoy can have a dye pack like the ones used in bank robberies. When it is pulled off the strap it will detonate in 30 seconds. ... Start taking them out one at a time
raider.adam: Then have the fake ipod explode with anthrax instead. That'll really teach them.
unclecranky: Don't they sell personal Tazers? If so that would be great......As the moron is doing the Ickey Shuffle in front of his friends with your iPod you could give him a blast with the Tazer.
Tenzo: Use of non-leathal force is illegal in Philly. You can't buy a tazer or stun gun.
Illiniwek: Well, make it a pistol then. And be lethal.
FleaDog: I was jogging once earlier this summer and a group of ~5 young black teens were off to the side (not too far) throwing rocks :eek: at folks going by... As i approached, they did it to me ... I honestly was going to pick the scrawny kid up and stuff him in a garbage can he was standing next to so he could feel even more of what it's like to be a piece of sh** that he was acting like.. idiots... I hope they do it again... I'll be waiting to teach them a lesson. ₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪ merkin xxi : what is the bar at 29th and stiles?
fairmounterpolo: a male nurse renovated it. put some decent money into it. ... trying to make it a touch "upscale"-but it is just attracting the locals with their long white tshirts and hooded sean jean parkas.
merkin: alright then, lace up those timbs, hoody up and venture north( or south for me). ₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪
sparco xxii : ... if I need a stick of butter I won't be walking up to one of my XXXL white t-shirt wearing sippin' on a forty neighbors and actually, I prefer coral V-necks and a soy chai latte hold the whip cream.
merkin: oh yeah, peps gotta reprazent and pack for protection, glocks welcome [to a party he was planning].
sideshowb: Is it too late to put a fence up separating North Phila from civilized people. It is absolutly disgusting how the people of the part of the city & the city gov't just continue to let things "go".
zur: I was going to bet people in the first thread about how long until somebody gets shot. My over/under was a month... I woulda lost...
kenfmt: I am legitimately suprised anyone would go to Temple and any parents would let their kid live on campus there.
V. Quotes - Good Character of Nearby Long-Time Residents In contrast to fearing their neighbors as a mass of unseen people, there is a parallel sense that immediate neighbors are extremely welcoming. ₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪
gorilla xxiv : someone broke into a house of mine under construction...Anyway they caught the outlaw after one of the nieghbors came forward and ID'd him. they ended up taking copper pipes. Crap like this happens all the time... on buildings under construction.
raider.adam xxv : the 2100 block of Master is excellent block ... the people are pretty good and half the block is related to each other and have lived there for ranges from 10 - 40 years. ₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪
sandfury xxvi : [29 th & Girard] I find the people (even the wasted ones) to be friendly and not interested in harming anyone except perhaps themselves.
suzieq: I know many of the Poplar people on 29th and 30th and they're cool people, friendly etc.
VI. Quotes - A Glimpse of Things to Come? The Black Cowboys were an important and unique part of Brewerytown for several decades – until the Redevelopment Authority, under the direction of Councilman Darrell Clarke and Mayor John Street, seized their stables through eminent domain, evicting them almost overnight. AABRA' plans for renovating the stables for humane and educational purposes were summarily rejected. Local politicians bowed to developers Westrum and Pennrose by destroying part of our culture so that developers would profit and their projects would gentrify Brewerytown. ₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪₪
sparco xxvii : One late afternoon a few weeks ago I heard hooves clacking away, I look up and see 4 horses being ridden down 31st street! I was so surprised! The only horses I've seen in Philly ever are in OldCity. Now, the other night around 9pm I saw two horses being ridden up 31st just north of Girard and turned east on Jefferson... it was very peculiar to say the least.
niel: Those are the urban cowboys - sometimes referred to as the "black cowboys" - most likely. They did have stables on the land Westrum is now developing. I guess it was technically illegal - kind of like they were squatting - but they were a beloved fixture in the neighborhood for many years. I don't know where they relocated the stable to.
Editor' Comment: The stables were 100% legal, the Black Cowboys rented, not squatted.
topcat: I used to see them all the time. Sometimes twenty or more riding around Fairmount Park. They were quite a fixture there for years. I heard them refereed to as 'The Posse' or 'The Black Cowboys' Always tipped their hats as they rode by. They were kind of cool.
niel: I saw them this summer on Lemon Hill - well, one, at least, with some teenage kids riding with him. ... lots of kids came running over to take a look. It was pretty cool. dagmar: Yeah, I would see them on Penna. Ave. alot when I lived there. That was another one of my favorite things. I thought it was pretty cool. I haven't seen them lately, tho'.
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i dont care how you slice the bread. al alston is a developer that does not pay his taxes. i am assuming that al will be getting some mail soon from city hall.
if you dig deeper you will find that al's name is associated with many mortgages from past sales and investments. how do you all figure that he made the cultural center.
^ Excellent post, local. The
^ Excellent post, local. The hypocrisy of Al Alston is palpable.
it really surprises me that
it really surprises me that folks will stand up for the right of people to talk about throwing anthrax on neighborhood kids , by saying that the statements were taken out of context. in what context would that be okay? what if someone were talking about your kids like that? as poor people, we're the ones being criminalized and talked about in these vicious ways - don't we have a right to know? what the hell is reverse discrimination? you're telling me tht designers, lawyers and engineers are now being discriminated against by neighborhood folks? because we can't afford to live in our neighborhoods anymore, is that why? have you looked at the other articles on this blog? i think there just might, perhaps, be some evidence here that there is a nationwide trend that is happening in cities that are in competition for attracting certain kinds of residents. of course this isn't about individuals, but that is clearly stated in the newsletter!! so for everone taking this so personally - look at the issue, the individual comments are just symptoms of a state of mind that sees our communities as a new frontier ripe for colonization.
that doesn't mean that just because you move in there, you are a bad person. it means there is a larger strategy going on that is working to push the poor out of the city centers - now that we're obsolete. how the fuck do you think that makes us feel?
i guess when you put it that
i guess when you put it that way...........your agression is fueled and i hope that some day you find a way to vent this agression. i have no idea what you are talking about with anthrax. the letter does not specify either. you my friend are not peaceloving and i would not want to live next to you.
if anything it is suggesting
if anything it is suggesting that those quoteed are going to throw anthrax. WTF are you talking about. persoanlly i think that you are all nuts and i hav no idea how these kind of agressive attitudes flourish. maybe in online communities, you brought this to the streets you would be bound to get your ass kicked or shunned. its easy to sit back on your computer and brainstorm the end of the world. this whole thing reads like a starnge sci fi novel.
quoting above: raider.adam:
quoting above:
raider.adam: Carry pepper spray on you. A shot of that in their eyes will definitely make them think twice about trying it again. … Vigilantism within legal bounds is what we seem to have to resort to.
elasticpurejoy: Keep the real ipod tucked inside your shorts. Have a decoy ipod on the outside that is very visible. The decoy can have a dye pack like the ones used in bank robberies. When it is pulled off the strap it will detonate in 30 seconds. … Start taking them out one at a time
raider.adam: Then have the fake ipod explode with anthrax instead. That’ll really teach them.
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my aggression?
just to nip this in the bud,
just to nip this in the bud, there's a wealth of information right in front of you, if you care to look. many sections of this very blog (trends, neoliberalism, what's happening elsewhere) provide ample evidence of the situation of cities in the global economy - competing to be sites of capital investment, and what that means for poor, working, and middle class people. i would suggest if you don't have direct experience of these things then you check out the resources and information that are gathered here, many of them from mainstream media sources as well as community organizations.
http://www.onechicago.org/doc
http://www.onechicago.org/docs/Fighting%20Gentrification%20Chicago%20Sty...
http://indymedia.nl/nl/2007/09/47002.shtml
http://indymedia.nl/media/2007/09//47004.pdf
http://www.narconews.com/Issue46/article2711.html
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D01E7DA1038F931A3575AC0A...
http://www.spa.ucla.edu/up/webfiles/csp2006-07.pdf
http://tigger.uic.edu/~pwright/dwd.html
http://jcua.org/content/page.php?cat_id=6&content_id=20
http://www.urbanjustice.org/pdf/publications/SelectCommitteeTestimony.pdf
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=875159
This a really interesting
This a really interesting conversation--I'm glad I came across this blog!
When I first started reading Whispers of Fear, Hate & the Planned Takeover of North Philly," I recognized the conversations being quoted, because they're really similar to ones that happen about where I live in South Philly. And I was interested in the analysis. But I also felt like, "hey--I'm (relatively) new to my neighborhood, and I've got more money than a lot of people who've lived here for a long time, and I'm benefitting from a lot of the changes that are happening. I'm a good person, but this is making me feel like people think I'm doing something bad, just by living somewhere that I can afford to live." But when I looked at the newsletter more carefully, I saw that the author is very explicit about not condemning newcomers: "we note that this article describes the effort to displace the long-time residents of North Philly through the words of the very newcomers perpetrating this offense. Unfortunately, our investigation of their subterfuge could not determine how representative of all newcomers their hostility is. We choose to leave the gauge of how widespread these ideas are to larger publications, with greater research capacities. We do caution long-time residents, however, not to assume that all of their new neighbors harbor the kind of ignorance, fear and hatred we describe below. As many of these quotations inadvertently demonstrate, North Philadelphians are generous, trusting and peace-loving. Our innate fairness and decency should prevent us from judging all newcomers to be the kind of individuals that these quotes lay bare. We must continue to treat every newcomer with respect."
This newsletter isn't attacking people like us, local. I'm not conspiring, and you're not conspiring, and I don't think the newsletter is saying we are. But there IS something going on that is hurting people who've lived in these neighborhoods for a long time. Families are being forced out of their communities by rising rents and property taxes. I see flyers all over my neighborhood saying "sell your house! cash! sell your house!"--these are companies that are trying to take advantage of our neighbors' hard times by buying their houses for way less than they're worth, so that the companies can turn around and rent or sell it to people like you and me. Check out this article on Yahoo News, called "Rich New Yorkers apt to stay, poorer to move" at http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070912/us_nm/newyorkcity_economy_dc.
So what do we do? I've been trying to figure that out, and it sounds like you have been too. I wish I had the answer! Here's what I'm thinking right now: There are divisive forces out there; something is pitting us against our neighbors, making people like us talk about throwing anthrax on kids--what is going on that even one of us can think something like that is alright to say, no matter how off the cuff?!? And people like us--people who aren't creating this division but also aren't being as hurt as people who are uprooted from their homes--do choose sides, whether consciously or not. So what we need to decide is, where are our real interests? Are they with our neighbors? Or are they with whatever is dividing us into groups that don't trust each other and make measly profits off each others' misfortunes (because I don't know about you, but the big profits aren't coming to me!)? I want to understand where this division is coming from. And that's why, even though I occasionally felt indicted by something in this newsletter, I am grateful for the analysis and info. Because I feel like reading it was a step toward understanding what is going on. And I think we need to understand that before we will know how to have truly clean and safe communities.
http://www.nhi.org/online/iss
http://www.nhi.org/online/issues/142/gentrification.html
something does need to happen
something does need to happen about people being displaced. i dont think that race has anything to do with it. diversity in both race and economics is a good idea. it seems that al gets upset at the devilopers for not giving subsidies to him and his organization. he goes to talk with them and he goes to zoning hearings. if he does not get his subsidies he opposes the development, that is extortion. it seems that he is hitting a hard wall. he then begins to attack people for buying houses like they should be shameful? in a way it is understandable but unless something is done in city hall it will be a bigger problem. clark thinks that the only way that NP will be developed is by razing everything and having big developers come in. big developers coming in is a good thing. but if people are being forced out that needs to be addressed. if there was a cap for certain people i think that this would not be an issue. or maybe a tax system that works. i dont like that al needs to go after the bystanders. we ALL want a better way of life. you have to admit that al is abit nutty. al himslef ownes many properties and is playing the real estate game. i have to question his intentions.
At about 9:05 a young women
At about 9:05 a young women from 24th and Brown parked her car on the west side of 24th Street adjacent to the Ukranian church. A silver car with a man and a woman in it pulled up. The man got out and tried to take the women's purse. She struggled with him and began yelling. He hit her very hard in the face as she continued to struggle and scream. So, he shot her point blank at the very top of her torso near her collar bone. The bullet went completely through her body and exited out the other side.
The perpetrator rifled through the purse leaving its contents strewn about the sidewalk and hopped back into the car which had just been stopped in the middle of the streeet. As he sped away, a neighbor gave chase on bike following him at high speed for several minutes and returning to the crime scene with a complete license plate number. The car was reportedly registered to a person from 24th Steet in N. Philadelphia.
My wife and I came out of our house seconds after the shooting as this thug was getting in his car about 10 feet from our front door. The women was walking down the street towards us asking for help and saying she had just been shot. I called 911 and the police arrived almost immediately. The ambulance arrived about five minutes later and the women was taken to Hahneman. I appears as if she will be fine. However, the pistol wipping was a very nasty injury and is probably much more serious than the actual gunshot.
The perpetrator was an African American male, roughly between the ages of 28 to 35. He was wearing a white T-Shirt (the street thugs' uniform) and driving a silver two door car with a spoiler on the rear. He had a very full face and weighed approximately 210-220 pounds and was probably about 5-10 to 6'. I don't know if anybody got a good look at the women in the car.
anthrax or a gun......hmmmm who has the upper hand yall.
talk about
talk about displacement:
This unfortunate incident reinforces my decision to take my family and move from fairmount, I too wanted my children to grow up in a socially diverse community, but not at any cost. When I have neighbors murdered, raped assaulted , mugged, and the endless property crimes, not to mention inferior educational opportunties, and lack of recreational facilities, I know my children are better off in the burbs, and it is quite possible to raise socially aware and tolerant kids otside the city, after all parents must protect their children
http://www.phillyblog.com/phi
http://www.phillyblog.com/philly/showthread.php?t=43772
raider.adam: Then have the
raider.adam: Then have the fake ipod explode with anthrax instead. That’ll really teach them.
fishtowner:This man is a client at the salon I work at. He was hit by a crowbar. There were 3 guys. One hit him and knocked his teeth out. Another grabbed his wallet, and another grabbed his Ipod. So there you have it. Be careful.
http://www.phillyblog.com/philly/showthread.php?t=10581
Forwarded from Carpenters
Forwarded from Carpenters Woods Town Watch
At around 11PM tonight my husband went out for his usual walk with our
dog. On the 700 block of Westview St., he was approached by two men,
one of whom was a young (aged 18-25), average-size African American
man. My husband did not get a good look at either him or his
companion. When my husband could not produce any money, the man hit my
husband in the face with his gun and then shot our dog in anger. He
then told my husband to run, which he did. My husband ran to Lincoln
Drive, flagged down a cab and asked the driver to take him home. My
husband then returned to the corner of Westview and Wayne where he
found our dead dog, some neighbors, and his house keys which he had
thrown on the ground. The police had been called.
At this writing, my husband is receiving treatment in the Chestnut Hill
ER and I am with our shaken up kids. We are heartbroken that our dog,
Precious, is gone. But of course, this could just as easily have been
my husband, my children's father. I am at a loss right now. Please,
all, be careful out there.
http://phillyblog.com/philly/showthread.php?t=44138
It may be that all cities
It may be that all cities require people to dream, but in Philadelphia imagining a new city is the singular act of citizenship. We're all of us ever-wondering what might be. We dream so intensely because we see the glowing possibility. It's just right there. The potential is marvelous, the possible only limited by our own imagination.
phillyblog.com- Is your point
phillyblog.com- Is your point that because there is violence in this city that that justifies spreading messages of throwing anthrax on kids in your neighborhood that scare you? If you think that the gentrification of your neighborhood has nothing to do with the violence we are seeing, you are sadly detached from reality AND far from understanding how to create real solutions to what we are experiencing... so I suggest you stick with plan A and just pack up and leave. please.
Also- Al Alston has been very upfront about the properties that he owns and the fact that he sold other properties to be able to provide Songhai City for the neighborhood. That's not breaking news or top secret info, people. And its not crazy either, it actually very smart. If you listen to folks who are working to try and keep their neighbors in their neighborhoods, people like Al, you will see that they are full of so many great and logical ideas that could really help our communities, create jobs, better our schools, create centers of art and history. And when these really great plans are presented to those in power in this city, they are ignored and SHOT DOWN and vilified. Why is that? What are they so scared of? What is so dangerous and threatening about people taking control of their lives and their communities?
What Al AND OTHERS have created in the area for neighbors is proving to be a vital anchor in an neigborhood quickly being sold off lot by lot for market rate development.
I live in Btown. I am a "new
I live in Btown. I am a "new neighbor" and I never felt such humiliation and fear as that inspired by AA's recent pamphlet. Right now, every time I go outside I worry that my neighbors have read your pamphlet and will feel the hate and anger towards me that your pamphlet suggests they should. I don't know if your (AA) intension was to raise the fears that white people have, but it did, at least for me.
According to the logic espoused by AA, all white people moving into neighborhoods which are not a majority white are part of "gentrification", gentrification is bad, therefore these white people are bad. If I am wrong, AL, please let me know exactly who are the "good" white neighbors and why...do you have such a vision in your head and if so, does anyone fit it?
You know, this is no different then the horrible racism that existed as blacks moved into white neighborhoods in the 50s and 60s (and still exists). If we took AA's rhetoric and reverse black and white, it would clearly be seen as racist. But, it is very dangerous because he suggests NOT ONLY that the white people in the neighborhood are bad because they are white, BUT ALSO that they are dangerous and leading a "take over". I would suggest it is borderline "hate crime" material, and anyone who disagrees should seriously re-evaluate how they view the Jenna 6 incidents. I just pray that there are no racially motivated attacks in this neighborhood fueled by this hate mail, otherwise AA might face a serious lawsuit.
Finally, I can assure you that anyone who hates black people or anyone who is rich is NOT going to move into this part of town. Whites or Blacks or other Races who move into this neighborhood must either be 1) poor and/or 2) tolerant or accepting diversity in terms of race. Anyone with money and sanity would choose a place that offers a higher quality of life in terms of environment, physical safety, and amenities. Anyone who hates racial diversity and is sane will stay in racially exclusive neighborhoods (this would be AA category). I am sorry that I represent an end to your racially exclusive neighborhood...and I am sorry that you make it such an uncomfortable place for white people and you carry on the racial legacies of US history...I just hope that there are more people in this neighborhood who disagree with you then there are those who agree with you.
...which seems to be the case.
"I am a new neighborand I
"I am a new neighborand I never felt such humiliation and fear..."
Word. I hear you. Sadly, I think your fear and humiliation is misdirected. You ALL want to blame Al Alston and his newsletter for your feelings. Again, he just posted what folks were writing. His alliegence is not to phillybog.com bloggers and their hidden networks. His purpose was to expose to the rest of the neighborhood the conversations and plotting that are happening on the internet, where many had no idea to look.
And yes, people are paying attention now, as they should be.
As someone who has worked with AABRA I know that Al and other folks who work with him are not hateful people. Al does not hate white people and talks mostly about how the getrification is about money and profit. The racism in this conversation CLEARLY is coming from the folks who are blogging on phillyblog and why should AABRA or anybody ignore that?
AABRA does not and should not have to try and make 'new neighbors' feel comfortable about what is happening in B-town. Gentrification and displacement are a reality and a real threat. Al loves his neighborhood and the people who have been his neighbors and he is not alone.
The Community Leadership Instutute in Norris Sguare is seeing some of the same things that Al is experiencing. After years of fighting against Eminent Domain Abuse as part of the gentrification process in their neighborhood, the organization can't even afford buy a place in their OWN NEIGHBORHOOD anymore.
There are more groups and more individuals who are fighting the change over of this city from a working class city to a "world class city" that doesn't include most of us. I think it's time folks get over their petty feelings and fear. Nobody cares about your justifications or defenses of your words but you. If you really want to prove something, have a real conversation about what is happening in the neighborhood...
yabasta, you are just as
yabasta, you are just as ignorant as al. this person expressed fear and you are approving it. al cant change the problems of displacement through the proper network so he has the right to TERRORIZE people through his race-letters? al is sick and so are you. i have been to al's meeting and i think that it is sick that he repeatedly comments on his neighbors across the street at brewerytown square as hateful and ugly people. he has no personal relation with them. that is ignorance my friend. fuck him and fuck you for spreading hate! al is a thug.
al does not live here this is not his neighborhood. he does business here. he makes money off of the same residents that he is supposedly defends. not only that he does not have the dignity to pay the taxes that support the neighborhood on the properties that he owns here. we dont need people like this in our neighborhood. we have some of the worst schools in philly and he is apart of that problem. you are going to give a blind eye to that!?
fact that people cant afford housing here is total bullshit. if you want a house here you can buy one in any price bracket. you and your cronies are twisting truths just as al redirected the comments on PB to hype up his agenda. you know what, we are not going anywhere. and there are more and more people moving into the neighborhood. its not a takeover it is a issue of affordability. i have to tell ya that the residents of this neighborhood including myself agree some of the best people in the city. loving accepting and giving, that is also why people decide to move here. like people attract like people and people like you and al will become extinct. love and acceptance will over rule hate and racist. you probably dont even live here. i love it when people think they know the best interest of others.
please do not use the f-word
please do not use the f-word on this blog - that is uncalled for.
oh and by the way, what is
oh and by the way, what is the 'proper network' you refer to above? are you part of that proper network? please, show us the proper way to change the problems of displacement. I'm very curious to hear your insights on this matter.
oh and on the question of the
oh and on the question of the schools, folks who live in brewerytown square have ten year tax abatement if i'm not mistaken. that policy, which is basically a gentrification policy, is what's really f---ing the schools.
oh yea and another thing, the
oh yea and another thing, the multi-million dollar publicity campaign launched by linebarger to collect back taxes that a lot of poor people have not paid, well geez i feel like instead of printing up hundreds of thousands of large color postcards and paying a photographer to go around and photograph people's houses (a friend of mine actually saw her house in this notice), that money could have been used to pay those taxes. i guess it's an upside down world everywhere we look.
common zak, i thought the "F"
common zak, i thought the "F" word was off limits? the ten year tax abatement is not a gentrification issue it is a development issue. it is a subsidy for people to build in this city. you want subsidy, you got it. you anti genty so called activists like to make this into a me versus the world. go see a shrink get over you racial issues and do something with your anger that will yield progress. the shit that is spews on this website does NOTHING!!!!!! pissing on a group of new residents and making them alienated and afraid to walk around is not progress you FUCK. on the contrary it is digression into segregation and feeds a dying few.
if displacement is the issue then go do something about it and stop using words like gentrification to backup you theory.
as for you friend not paying their taxes. if they owe taxes then they are game, those are the rules. things might be unfair but maybe you dont know this yet or maybe you do and you need to reminded.
of the 50 mill or so that is owed to the city for back taxes your good friend al and who ever got their notice is apart of the problem. the school deficit is around 50MILL. in ten years the tax abatement will be cashing in or people will leave, who knows. regardless we need to make sure that the school deficit is taken cared for and at least someone is trying to give a solution. its all a game. i dont agree with it all time, but as you can see i will voice my opinion and i remember things when i vote.
"We must learn to live
"We must learn to live together as brothers or perish together as fools." - Martin Luther King Jr.
i don't see this as a racial
i don't see this as a racial issue and nothing i've ever said would indicate that.
i appreciate your response the website, the fact that you are here and continue to post and respond draws more people into the ideas and the debate.
this blog is a record of issues that are not reported on and provides documentation that cannot be found anywhere else.
there are many organizing efforts going on all around the city regarding schools and other issues that i am very involved with. somehow, i suspect you are not
i whole heartedly agree with
i whole heartedly agree with the ideas and spirt of the Rev. dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
why do you think the taxes
why do you think the taxes are going up anyway there zak. if the city is owed 250ML in back taxes the city needs to recieve that money regardless. .people like al alston like to not pay there taxes.....so other peoples taxes go up. tax abatement incourages developement. when the abatement is up there will be a larger tax base to help the city survive.
zak, do you own a house? do you pay taxes?
In fact, before the end of
In fact, before the end of his life he took the bold and very unpopular step of advocating for a massive movement to end poverty led by the poor. he was attacked and reviled for making this switch from civil rights, to economic human rights. i take his words seriously and believe that we all should. it is so timely of you to bring this up as we're on the eve of the 40th anniversary of the poor people's march. thank you.
and yes as a matter of fact
and yes as a matter of fact and am i homeowner and i do pay taxes. thanks for asking.
oops, i meant to say, I AM a
oops, i meant to say, I AM a homeowner, and I do pay taxes.
zak, thank you for being as
zak, thank you for being as you are. i strongly believe that the respect that you give will always be rewarded. i respect the fact that you own your house and pay your taxes, that we have in common. i only ask cause i find it hypocritical that al owns many properties and decides not to pay his.
it is amazing what the words of mr. king can do to calm the soul. tears come every time i hear his voice.
personally i dont see any of this as a racial issue either. the aabra is overwhelmingly adding racially charged propaganda. i wont say that i dont push things either. race is not something that i feel that i need to explain or rationalize. i am the minority in a predominately black neighborhood, the contrast to how i was raised is enormous. if race was an issue i would not live here and i am assuming that the people in the square would agree with me. more time should be spent in unsegregating between class, old and new. mocking and generalizing does nothing for the unity of this neighborhood. there are new people moving in and we need to be good neighbors. if there are issues then we need to deal with that.
I am not ignorant. I am not
I am not ignorant. I am not racist and I am not trying to make people feel unsafe in their own neighborhoods.
It's really hallarious how every horrible thing in this world is Al Alston's fault... bad schools, racial tensions in your neighborhood, citywide violence. what? I hope that when you chill out you will be able to see that there are lots of people fighting what you may understand as 'progress' in this city (and other cities.
yabasta Says: October 13th,
yabasta Says:
October 13th, 2007 at 2:17 am
"I am not ignorant. I am not racist and I am not trying to make people feel unsafe in their own neighborhoods."
then you wouldnt have to defend yourself. it isnt al's fault. my problem is that he gives the whole argument a bad name so that the real issues that you are alluding to get wrongly associated. if he spent more time dealing with the issues instead of fighting then something possitive might come out of this. go ahead and keep supporting this guy and you too will become a part of the problem as al alston is. you cant repent your sins though this fight you are only making it harder to deal with theh issues at hand.
Here are a couple of other
Here are a couple of other resources that I think people should take a look at.
http://www.wiretapmag.org/race/43167/
http://www.wiretapmag.org/race/43269/
"I can't believe what I just
"I can't believe what I just read Merkin (the Alston piece plus the comments). Who would have thought that rehabbing vacant, delapitated shells would have such a deletirious affect on the community?
Can't say that I'd be excited to do any rehab work down there, and based on that article seems like I won't anytime soon.
It's too bad, as I'm the type of developer Al wants, but it seems hard to go into a community that appears so divided. When you're in the low-income housing field you need a lot of community cooperation, and I can't say that writing like his helps.
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"I would like to start by
"I would like to start by saying that I am an African American Man. I moved to Brewerytown (North Philly) from Mt Airy because of Westrum in 2006 and I have since Gentrified a building right across from Al' make shift business (btw i don’t know what your business does, please enlighten me). Unlike AL, I came in and saw an opportunity and a chance to make things better so I put my money where my mouth was. I moved from a "gated condo" to a row house in North Philly (Sorry Brewerytown) and I love it. I say hello to my Neighbors, I clean the front of my house I shop at the store in the N'hood, etc
Like someone else said before, Westrum's Development is the best thing that has happened to Brewerytown in Years. Finally the imaginary line from the Art Museum is getting blurrier. (If only you took the 48 or 7 bus, you will see how vivid the line is. To Center city: No non-AA before Girard, From Center City: No non-AA after Girard).
Like every business person should know, if you have no guts, there is no glory. I challenge AL to do something more positive than spread hate around. Open a business; give free classes to teach new skills. Do something positive rather than spread fear.
You keep claiming that people in the N'hood are not being hired, could it be because they don't have skills in the building trade? Ask Bill Reddish an AA contractor who gave him the contract to rebuild fill in houses in the N'hood. Unlike other that want only the menial labor jobs at the sites, Bill and his company has the required skills so they got the job. Mr. Alston – Organize a way to train people from the N'hood. It will take 5 more years to finish the work at Westrum' development it takes about a year to train a trades person in construction. Not to mention that Westrum has another development in east falls that may run longer. If you train the people from the N'hood, they will have a job for the next 5 years at least... so think about that as a way to pay Westrum back for destroying the N'hood. If you can’t beat them (stop them) Join them (help the N'hood rebuild and create Jobs)
As to the point of kicking out the inhabitants of Brewerytown, without Westrum, Old ladies will not be able to sell their homes and have a better life now - Cash for food, medicine, and healthcare Or leave something valuable for their kids when they pass on that is if they choose not to sell. (Someone sold all your houses to you right- when it was dirt cheap if I might add). I bought my property from someone who paid half of my cost for it just 5 years before. The long time residents just got a value jump of at least 200% assuming they owned it longer than the person who sold it to me. How can that be bad for the N'hood? We in the real world call that value appreciation. As to the issue of raised taxes, Mr. Darryl Clarke promised that long time residents will be protected. If on nothing else, I believe him on that promise.
Gentrification or revitalization is good for Philadelphia. No one is forcing anyone out. Al should look at this as a way to pump new life into the community. This should not be misconstrued to mean that the old residents are not worthy. People who truly love the neighborhood take care of it. (My next door is a good example. The day I say him pick up all the trash from the front of both our houses on his way into his house, was the day I realized I had made the right decision to invest in Brewerytown). And the truth is with new residents, come new opportunity to grow the community, new money, new businesses, new ideas, and new learnings. And we all need that. An example is Brewtown. (BTW - If I were the one opening the shop, I doubt AABRA would oppose it as much)
So AL stop being as racist as you claim others are. Be a positive Impact not the reason for a negative outlook.
Please feel free to label me a sell out. But I have seen the good life in Mt Airy and B’Town could be the next great N’hood."
Thisbe, I really, really
Thisbe,
I really, really appreciated your post. It pretty much said what I have in my head after reading these postings.